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| − | == | + | == Freebone Management Network == |
| + | ONLY FOR MANGEMENT | ||
| + | moved to: | ||
| − | + | https://backbone.funkfeuer.at/freebone:management_ip | |
| − | + | ||
| − | + | ||
| − | + | ||
| − | + | == Main nodes (DEPRECATED) == | |
| − | + | ||
| − | + | === NIX === | |
| + | |||
| + | 1x RB433AH in alubox | ||
| + | |||
| + | planned links: | ||
| + | - ho6 (24 dbi grid) | ||
| + | - ares tower (30 dbi grid) | ||
| + | - geraldo (23 dbi panel) | ||
| − | + | tested link: | |
| + | - geraldo osbridge as client 6-8 mbit (the same when @vivi) | ||
| + | |||
| + | to do: | ||
| + | - 2.4ghz accespoint (fonera in 14dbi antenna box) only for very near clients | ||
| + | - better 2.4ghz ? sector ? | ||
| − | + | photos: | |
| − | 192.168.101.1 spenger25 | + | Markus G., Markus K. |
| + | |||
| + | === Heuberg === | ||
| + | |||
| + | Nobody knows whats there, probably RB433 in alubox with some random antennas. | ||
| + | |||
| + | Also a pair of RB411 working as my uplink. (not touched since 6 months works stable in 54*2/54*2 mbps mode, 30 mbps) | ||
| + | |||
| + | Soon to be rebuild with RB493AH(replacement for poor indoor vlan switch), better antenna paths separation. | ||
| + | |||
| + | === kryptaroof === | ||
| + | |||
| + | 2X RB433 in alubox | ||
| + | |||
| + | |||
| + | |||
| + | functional links: | ||
| + | - ffh (26 dbi grid) osbridge as client 10mbps | ||
| + | - heuberg (26 dbi grid) ~40mbps throghput, unstable on heuberg RX side, 36mbps*2/36mbps*2 turbo mode fixed | ||
| + | - ho6 (23 dbi panel) - ccq ~50%, soon be moved @NIX | ||
| + | |||
| + | to do: | ||
| + | - akh (23 dbi panel) | ||
| + | - 2.4ghz access point for very near clients | ||
| + | |||
| + | photos: | ||
| + | |||
| + | markus | ||
| + | |||
| + | == IP Assignments (DEPRECATED) == | ||
| + | old mangement ips will get deprecated soon | ||
| + | |||
| + | 192.168.101.1 spenger25 rb411 | ||
192.168.101.2 heunord rb411 | 192.168.101.2 heunord rb411 | ||
192.168.101.3 heunord rb433 | 192.168.101.3 heunord rb433 | ||
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192.168.101.6 nord27 rb411 | 192.168.101.6 nord27 rb411 | ||
192.168.101.7 hp4 rb433 | 192.168.101.7 hp4 rb433 | ||
| − | 192.168.101.10 | + | 192.168.101.8 gerhardusgasse rb411 - connected to hp4 |
| + | 192.168.101.9 jg7 | ||
| + | 192.168.101.10 NIX - rb433AH | ||
192.168.101.11 rosenstein | 192.168.101.11 rosenstein | ||
| + | 192.168.101/2/3.12 kryptaroof-lower rb433 - ether3 management IP only ! | ||
| + | 192.168.103.13 ho6-rb532 | ||
| + | 192.168.101/2.14 kryptaroof-upper rb433 ptp to heunord and turbo-mode ptmp to nbg/jg7 | ||
| + | 192.168.102.15 nbg-roof rb493AH | ||
| + | 192.168.102.16 nbg | ||
| + | 192.168.101.17 heusued | ||
| + | 192.168.103.18 hh10 | ||
| + | |||
| + | 192.168.101.25 RB493AH - spenger25 indoor testbed :) | ||
| + | |||
| + | 192.168.11.1 RB433AH nix-to-ares mac: 00:0c:42::3c:e9:7f | ||
| + | 192.168.11.2 RB433AH ares-to-nix mac: 00:0c:42::3c:de:c9 | ||
| + | |||
| + | |||
| + | see also: [https://marvin.funkfeuer.at/backbone-wiki/doku.php?id=freebone:nodes:nbg NBG] | ||
| + | |||
| + | on olsr router behind the 5 ghz devices there is following rule for ip assignment for better management of routerboards (e.g. useful for ssh-tunnel) | ||
| + | |||
| + | 192.168.101.100+x | ||
| + | |||
| + | above shall mean if routerboard has 192.168.101.23 router attached to routerboard should have 192.168.101.123 | ||
| + | |||
| + | best place to add this ip (on an fff-router) is to append /etc/init.d/S40network with | ||
| + | |||
| + | #routerboard management ip | ||
| + | ip addr add 192.168.101.1xx/24 dev vlan1 | ||
| + | |||
| + | (Caution: this will not survive flashing the router again) | ||
| + | |||
| + | |||
| + | btw: if you have multiple (olsr) routers attached to the routerboard, than you setup is to be considered invalid, as it causes unwanted traffic to the routerboard network! | ||
| + | |||
| + | ips of range 192.168.101.200..254 are reserved for temporal usage only! | ||
| + | |||
| + | == OLSR == | ||
| + | |||
| + | after you got into the bash of your routerboard,.. | ||
| + | |||
| + | it`s easy to put olsrd on it (and some other usefaul utilities, e.g. ip or busybox with missing applets) | ||
| + | |||
| + | more info on how to get into RouterOS Bash needed. I am working on it and will post it when i figure it out. | ||
| + | |||
| + | there is no real need to work on this,.. we (and others) already know how to do,.. | ||
| + | we just do not like to publish it,.. (blame markit *G (whom you can reach for example over 0xff mailinglists)) | ||
| + | |||
| + | but if you are running RouterOS on x86 hardware go here for some very nifty stuff [http://routing.explode.gr/mikrotik-linux1.8] | ||
| + | |||
| + | vote on this if you want MK to be more developer friendly | ||
| + | http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39215 | ||
| + | |||
| + | some useful things/hints: | ||
| + | |||
| + | *the RouterOs/Winbox Files section store files in /rw/pckg | ||
| + | *many utilities are there but not symlinks to busybox e.g. use #busybox ls | ||
| + | *you may add symlinks for convenience or add scripts to /etc/run.d/* but do not whine if your boards stops booting, if you did something wrong (you may have to recover with netinstall, or serial connection) | ||
| + | *RouterOs numbers Routing tables internally different than what you enter (so if you wanna use RtTable you have to fiddle around a bit, to get the right table) | ||
| + | *the oldest ip adress is the primary one per interface, (if you edit one, its the newest again, and not the primary one any more (this is just a problem if you have multiple adresses per interface) | ||
| + | *icmp_redirects can not be turned off via the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/all/icmp_redirects, so you can/should not use olsr with adhoc mode wifi links or on software bridges | ||
| + | *if you want to mod (e.g. put a link to the olsrd-httpinfo) the web-startpage use /home/web/index2.html.orig to do it permanently (to draft use the index2.html) | ||
| + | |||
| + | == 811.n == | ||
| + | um 811.n nutzen zu könen muss man auf Routeros 4 upgraden (momentan gibts davon erstmals nur betas) | ||
| + | |||
| + | bis jetzt hat sich aber mal herausgestellt das 811.n mit tcp nutzdaten ziemlich viel cpu-braucht, d.h. mit 300Mhz boards haben ich nicht mehr als ca. 35mbit hdx 25mbit fdx Durchsatz geschafft (auf nen link der 200mbit udp schaffte), mit 680Mhz boards (auf beiden seiten) 60mbit hdx bzw 50mbit fdx, und mit 800Mhz getaktet dann 75mbit hdx und 60mbit fdx. | ||
| − | + | nicht ganz berauschend, denn auf einem nstreme dual link haben auch 300mhz boards kein problem 80mbit fdx zu bewältigen, oder schaffen auch auf nen normalen 811.a turbo link mehr durchsatz (knapp 70mbit hdx) als mit 811.n | |
== Geplant (Markus) == | == Geplant (Markus) == | ||
| − | + | --> check freebone activities also! | |
| − | + | (done!) Leopoldsberg - HP 4 | |
| − | + | (progress!) nbg-krypta mit 811.n oder nstreme dual austatten | |
| − | + | Heunord antenna 2 - herzilein (28dbi grid dort schon vorhanden und ausgerichtet) | |
| − | + | ho6 - liechtwicht | |
| − | + | ||
| − | + | ||
| − | + | heunord - kahlenberg | |
| − | + | ||
| + | (progress!) signalqualität auf krypta heunord verbessern (antennen, standort, bessere minipcis, schirmung,...) | ||
== Plans (Jan) == | == Plans (Jan) == | ||
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durch votivkriche sehr extrem eingeschränkte sicht, ca. 20mbit | durch votivkriche sehr extrem eingeschränkte sicht, ca. 20mbit | ||
26db gridantennen | 26db gridantennen | ||
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Aktuelle Version vom 21. April 2017, 18:28 Uhr
Inhaltsverzeichnis
Freebone Management Network
ONLY FOR MANGEMENT
moved to:
https://backbone.funkfeuer.at/freebone:management_ip
Main nodes (DEPRECATED)
NIX
1x RB433AH in alubox planned links: - ho6 (24 dbi grid) - ares tower (30 dbi grid) - geraldo (23 dbi panel)
tested link: - geraldo osbridge as client 6-8 mbit (the same when @vivi) to do: - 2.4ghz accespoint (fonera in 14dbi antenna box) only for very near clients - better 2.4ghz ? sector ?
photos:
Markus G., Markus K.
Heuberg
Nobody knows whats there, probably RB433 in alubox with some random antennas.
Also a pair of RB411 working as my uplink. (not touched since 6 months works stable in 54*2/54*2 mbps mode, 30 mbps)
Soon to be rebuild with RB493AH(replacement for poor indoor vlan switch), better antenna paths separation.
kryptaroof
2X RB433 in alubox
functional links: - ffh (26 dbi grid) osbridge as client 10mbps - heuberg (26 dbi grid) ~40mbps throghput, unstable on heuberg RX side, 36mbps*2/36mbps*2 turbo mode fixed - ho6 (23 dbi panel) - ccq ~50%, soon be moved @NIX
to do: - akh (23 dbi panel) - 2.4ghz access point for very near clients
photos: markus
IP Assignments (DEPRECATED)
old mangement ips will get deprecated soon
192.168.101.1 spenger25 rb411 192.168.101.2 heunord rb411 192.168.101.3 heunord rb433 192.168.101.4 garten94 rb433 192.168.101.5 liechtwicht rb433 192.168.101.6 nord27 rb411 192.168.101.7 hp4 rb433 192.168.101.8 gerhardusgasse rb411 - connected to hp4 192.168.101.9 jg7 192.168.101.10 NIX - rb433AH 192.168.101.11 rosenstein 192.168.101/2/3.12 kryptaroof-lower rb433 - ether3 management IP only ! 192.168.103.13 ho6-rb532 192.168.101/2.14 kryptaroof-upper rb433 ptp to heunord and turbo-mode ptmp to nbg/jg7 192.168.102.15 nbg-roof rb493AH 192.168.102.16 nbg 192.168.101.17 heusued 192.168.103.18 hh10
192.168.101.25 RB493AH - spenger25 indoor testbed :)
192.168.11.1 RB433AH nix-to-ares mac: 00:0c:42::3c:e9:7f 192.168.11.2 RB433AH ares-to-nix mac: 00:0c:42::3c:de:c9
see also: NBG
on olsr router behind the 5 ghz devices there is following rule for ip assignment for better management of routerboards (e.g. useful for ssh-tunnel)
192.168.101.100+x
above shall mean if routerboard has 192.168.101.23 router attached to routerboard should have 192.168.101.123
best place to add this ip (on an fff-router) is to append /etc/init.d/S40network with
#routerboard management ip ip addr add 192.168.101.1xx/24 dev vlan1
(Caution: this will not survive flashing the router again)
btw: if you have multiple (olsr) routers attached to the routerboard, than you setup is to be considered invalid, as it causes unwanted traffic to the routerboard network!
ips of range 192.168.101.200..254 are reserved for temporal usage only!
OLSR
after you got into the bash of your routerboard,..
it`s easy to put olsrd on it (and some other usefaul utilities, e.g. ip or busybox with missing applets)
more info on how to get into RouterOS Bash needed. I am working on it and will post it when i figure it out.
there is no real need to work on this,.. we (and others) already know how to do,.. we just do not like to publish it,.. (blame markit *G (whom you can reach for example over 0xff mailinglists))
but if you are running RouterOS on x86 hardware go here for some very nifty stuff [1]
vote on this if you want MK to be more developer friendly http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39215
some useful things/hints:
- the RouterOs/Winbox Files section store files in /rw/pckg
- many utilities are there but not symlinks to busybox e.g. use #busybox ls
- you may add symlinks for convenience or add scripts to /etc/run.d/* but do not whine if your boards stops booting, if you did something wrong (you may have to recover with netinstall, or serial connection)
- RouterOs numbers Routing tables internally different than what you enter (so if you wanna use RtTable you have to fiddle around a bit, to get the right table)
- the oldest ip adress is the primary one per interface, (if you edit one, its the newest again, and not the primary one any more (this is just a problem if you have multiple adresses per interface)
- icmp_redirects can not be turned off via the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/all/icmp_redirects, so you can/should not use olsr with adhoc mode wifi links or on software bridges
- if you want to mod (e.g. put a link to the olsrd-httpinfo) the web-startpage use /home/web/index2.html.orig to do it permanently (to draft use the index2.html)
811.n
um 811.n nutzen zu könen muss man auf Routeros 4 upgraden (momentan gibts davon erstmals nur betas)
bis jetzt hat sich aber mal herausgestellt das 811.n mit tcp nutzdaten ziemlich viel cpu-braucht, d.h. mit 300Mhz boards haben ich nicht mehr als ca. 35mbit hdx 25mbit fdx Durchsatz geschafft (auf nen link der 200mbit udp schaffte), mit 680Mhz boards (auf beiden seiten) 60mbit hdx bzw 50mbit fdx, und mit 800Mhz getaktet dann 75mbit hdx und 60mbit fdx.
nicht ganz berauschend, denn auf einem nstreme dual link haben auch 300mhz boards kein problem 80mbit fdx zu bewältigen, oder schaffen auch auf nen normalen 811.a turbo link mehr durchsatz (knapp 70mbit hdx) als mit 811.n
Geplant (Markus)
--> check freebone activities also!
(done!) Leopoldsberg - HP 4
(progress!) nbg-krypta mit 811.n oder nstreme dual austatten
Heunord antenna 2 - herzilein (28dbi grid dort schon vorhanden und ausgerichtet)
ho6 - liechtwicht
heunord - kahlenberg
(progress!) signalqualität auf krypta heunord verbessern (antennen, standort, bessere minipcis, schirmung,...)
Plans (Jan)
Create point to multipoint, fully redundant (OSPF setup) uplink in triangle:
KRYPTA-PELIKAN-HEUNORD
Capable of carrying 60-80 mbps traffic full duplex
we need:
3x ALIX 3c1 or RB433AH
6x mini pci sparklan or R52
3x ALU BOX for board, with 3xN-ufl pigtails
3x MARS 25 DBI dual polarisation antenna
6x pigtails ufl-n
6x 2 meters of 5ghz (RF400) meter cable N-N
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Functional routerboard links:
heunord - spenger25
tadellos 30mbps 2x rb411´
heunord antenna 3 - VIVI (UPLINK for heunord)
temporary link, antenas not perfect aligned 18/18 mbps 08/12/01 antenna on vivi moved away, fixed in Novermeber 08/12/15 link deaktiviert, zu schlechtes signal 08/12/29 antenna on vivi fixed again (33db SNR), now 22/25mbit always suffers from interferences with outher links, maybe minipci shielding, may improve this, or better antenna cables, or bigger distances between antennas,..
heunord antenna 3 - rosentstein
markus, tadellos, geplanter polarisationswechel und verbindung mit heunord antenna 2, to reduce airtime conflicts with VIVI-HEUNORD
heunord antenna 2 - liechtwicht
markus, war tadellos (40mbps) seit november08 etwas problematisch (nach Umbau, vmtl. schlechtes pigtail) aber auch absichtlich möglichst hohen kanal, und kein rutbo-mode, und geringere leistung um heunord - VIVI nicht zu stören, momentan (12/16mbit)
heunord antenna 0 - garten94
markus, currently 25mbps (40 would be no problem) turbo mode deaktivated, as it makes huge interferences with other links (even when on low tx-power) very low tx power on both ends (as its only 200 meters anyways, and disturbs viv-heunord)
garten94 (rb433) - nord27 (rb411)
markus, 12km link, 28db grid on garten and 23 db antennabox 18mbit, very reliable, better than with heunord (which it was before), less interference with other 5ghz and with trees (-;
liechtwicht - hp4
markus, felix 19dbi gentlebox, 18dbi dual antenna, 30/18mbps, turbo-mode, noch nicht perfekt ausgerichtet momentan kein duallink, aber ist geplant, sobald weitere dualantennen vorhanden(schon bestellt)
VIVI - HO6
2x RB532 - andi/markus durch votivkriche sehr extrem eingeschränkte sicht, ca. 20mbit 26db gridantennen
